Post by Harry on Jun 8, 2002 11:58:54 GMT -5
This is a more general sonnet-related topic, so I thought it might be worth its own thread.
Most Shakespeare fans will be familiar with Thomas Thorpe's dedication in the 1609 edition of the sonnets.
This dedication has caused almost as much controversy as any of the sonnets. The identities of Mr. W.H., the only begetter of these sonnets, and the ever-living poet, have been debated for many years.
Most commentators assume that the ever-living poet is Shakespeare. Oxfordians claim that calling Shakespeare "ever-living" means that he is dead. In 1609 the Earl of Oxford, but not William Shakespeare, was dead.
The identity of Mr. W.H. seems the greater mystery. It is usually assumed that Mr. W.H. is Shakespeare's inspiration and is the Youth of the sonnets. Those who believe the Youth was Henry Wriothesley, the Earl of Southampton, think that, either accidently or intentionally, the initials are reversed. There are those who like William Herbert, the Earl of Pembroke, as the Youth, partially because no reversal is called for. Other candidates for Mr. W.H. have been proposed. It should be noted that neither Southampton nor Pembroke would EVER have been addressed as Mr. anything. They were nobleman, not Misters. Another suggestion is that Mr. W.H. is the person who provided Thorpe with the manuscript.
A few years ago, Donald Foster, now a professor at Vassar, proposed a new solution to the problem. He used a computer data base to search Elizabethan poetry and found that "begetter" always refered to the author--never the inspiration, nor the person who provided the manuscript to the publisher. In other words, "Mr. W.H." is a typo. It should read "Mr. W. SH." (William Shakespeare) the true "only begetter" of the sonnets.
Foster went on to look at the "ever-living poet." If Shakespeare is Mr. W.H., then he can't be the poet. Foster found that "ever-living" always referred to God. Thus, in this context, God is "our ever-living poet."
Evans, my usual source of sonnet wisdom doesn't think much of this. However, I like it. Viewed from this angle, the puzzling dedication makes perfect sense. Maybe this isn't what Thorpe had in mind, but it should have been.
Foster is an interesting character. He is the guy who identified Shakespeare as the author of The Funeral Elegy. His SHAXICON database may have identified roles the actor, William Shakespeare, performed. He successfully identified Joel Kline as the annonymous author of Primary Colors. As an expert on identification of annonymous authors, he has been called in as a consultant on the Unabomber, Atlanta bombings, and Jon Benet Ramsey cases. He even looked into the authorship of A Visit From St. Nicholas ("Twas the night before Christmas..."). It wasn't Clement Moore. He's fairly young. One wonders what he will do next.
Most Shakespeare fans will be familiar with Thomas Thorpe's dedication in the 1609 edition of the sonnets.
TO.THE.ONLIE.BEGETTER.OF.
THESE. ENSVING.SONNETS.
Mr.W.H. ALL.HAPPINESSE.
AND.THAT.ETERNITIE.
PROMISED.
BY.
OVR.EVER-LIVING.POET.
WISHETH.
THE.WELL-WISHING.
ADVENTURER.IN.
SETTING.
FORTH.
T.T.
THESE. ENSVING.SONNETS.
Mr.W.H. ALL.HAPPINESSE.
AND.THAT.ETERNITIE.
PROMISED.
BY.
OVR.EVER-LIVING.POET.
WISHETH.
THE.WELL-WISHING.
ADVENTURER.IN.
SETTING.
FORTH.
T.T.
This dedication has caused almost as much controversy as any of the sonnets. The identities of Mr. W.H., the only begetter of these sonnets, and the ever-living poet, have been debated for many years.
Most commentators assume that the ever-living poet is Shakespeare. Oxfordians claim that calling Shakespeare "ever-living" means that he is dead. In 1609 the Earl of Oxford, but not William Shakespeare, was dead.
The identity of Mr. W.H. seems the greater mystery. It is usually assumed that Mr. W.H. is Shakespeare's inspiration and is the Youth of the sonnets. Those who believe the Youth was Henry Wriothesley, the Earl of Southampton, think that, either accidently or intentionally, the initials are reversed. There are those who like William Herbert, the Earl of Pembroke, as the Youth, partially because no reversal is called for. Other candidates for Mr. W.H. have been proposed. It should be noted that neither Southampton nor Pembroke would EVER have been addressed as Mr. anything. They were nobleman, not Misters. Another suggestion is that Mr. W.H. is the person who provided Thorpe with the manuscript.
A few years ago, Donald Foster, now a professor at Vassar, proposed a new solution to the problem. He used a computer data base to search Elizabethan poetry and found that "begetter" always refered to the author--never the inspiration, nor the person who provided the manuscript to the publisher. In other words, "Mr. W.H." is a typo. It should read "Mr. W. SH." (William Shakespeare) the true "only begetter" of the sonnets.
Foster went on to look at the "ever-living poet." If Shakespeare is Mr. W.H., then he can't be the poet. Foster found that "ever-living" always referred to God. Thus, in this context, God is "our ever-living poet."
Evans, my usual source of sonnet wisdom doesn't think much of this. However, I like it. Viewed from this angle, the puzzling dedication makes perfect sense. Maybe this isn't what Thorpe had in mind, but it should have been.
Foster is an interesting character. He is the guy who identified Shakespeare as the author of The Funeral Elegy. His SHAXICON database may have identified roles the actor, William Shakespeare, performed. He successfully identified Joel Kline as the annonymous author of Primary Colors. As an expert on identification of annonymous authors, he has been called in as a consultant on the Unabomber, Atlanta bombings, and Jon Benet Ramsey cases. He even looked into the authorship of A Visit From St. Nicholas ("Twas the night before Christmas..."). It wasn't Clement Moore. He's fairly young. One wonders what he will do next.