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Post by shaxper on Aug 8, 2002 13:28:55 GMT -5
It's probably worth a small fortune. Who published it?
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actaeon
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Post by actaeon on Aug 8, 2002 15:54:31 GMT -5
Oxford University Press. I think it cost me £20 or £25, so that wasn't too disastrous (my wife didn't think so)but it's the only copy I've ever seen. It has a sticker in the front from a bookseller in Adelaide, and the bookseller I bought it from told me he had had it from somewhjere in California, so I like to think it's completed its circumnavigation and come back home
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Lord3
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Post by Lord3 on Oct 19, 2002 16:26:35 GMT -5
I had occasion to do a reading of Edward III. (Imight have mentioned it on another post- if so I apologize for repeating myself) Yes, to me there is little doubt that WS wrote at least some of EDIII. The syntax, the feel, the sound changes when we get to say the Salisbury scenes. There we are reading along, all the actors bravely speaking inferior words then wham, we were hit with a change in word choices and echoes from other WS plays (Twelfth Night, Rand J and others). The clouds lifted and we recognize a friend. I haven't read the other ones.
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Post by shaxper on Oct 19, 2002 18:43:59 GMT -5
That sounds fantastic. I'll most definately have to read it. How "tolerable" are the non-WS sectons, by the way?
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Post by rabagas on Feb 25, 2003 14:25:30 GMT -5
I think the Shakespeare Apocrypha is well worth studying although I've only read a few of the plays sometimes attributed to him. The reluctance to even discuss them by Shakespeare scholars has always amazed me. The ones I've read, Merlin, The Taming of A Shrew, The Famous Battles of Henry V, THe Two Noble Kinsmen, The Angry Women of Abingdon, King Edwar III, and Arden of Feversham all have elements that strongly suggest Shakeseare had a hand in them, or perhaps a thumb.
I think we tend to underestimate the extent of collaboration that exists in the theatre and to overemphasize individual authorship. I was a little surprised thirty years ago when I saw that The Two Noble Kinsman was included in Shaksepeare's opus by I think the Signet edition. But it seems to have been read out of of the canon again. THe writer introducing that edition remarked that in the 19th century any faults in a work that was collaborative tended to be blamed not on Shaksepeare but on the collaborator, and that in more recent times the tendency had been to insist that the collaborator had almost no part in the work.
My own reading of Edward III convinces me the first two actrs are definitely by Shakespeare, the rest, not so certain. The Taming of A Shrew, and The Famous Victories of Henry V look to me not so much like early versions, but rather touring versions. Both are essentially one act plays, that a touring company could put on. And it's pretty well established that Shakespeare's company did take their plays to various towns from time to time.
I think we miss a lot by ignoring the Apocrypha. The more examples you have of a writer's work, the better you understand each individual work. I also am a firm believer in looking at later adaptations of Shakespeare, because there, too, throw light on the original work. I'm particularly interested in French versions of Shakespearean plays, but more of that, anon.
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Post by Bardolph on Jul 15, 2003 1:31:41 GMT -5
rabagas,
I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the attribution to Shakespeare of what is known as 'Hand D" in the play Thomas Moore.
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Post by rabagas on Jul 15, 2003 11:59:31 GMT -5
I've never read the Thomas More play, but I own it and have it somewhere. I've read that it is parttially by Shakespeare and that's all I can say. If I can find my copy, I'll try to read it and give you an opinion.
Rabagas
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Post by Bardolph on Jul 15, 2003 17:08:58 GMT -5
That would be great. I have some enlargements of the Hand D contribution. The late writer Charles Hamilton felt that there is a similarity between those pages and what we know as Will's will. I've examined the material but I haven't really considered the literary comparison or the lexicography issues. I'd be grateful to hear your views.
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